Topic: to all the clubs 'flippers', a little help please.... (Read 526 times)

E_Bassfisher · « **on:** April 14, 2008, 01:17:34 PM »

i've noticed that a few of you guys have had decent success with this technique. flipping is something that i want to learn. if y'all dont mind elaborating a little about things like rigging, colors, preferred cover, distance from cover, ect.....

any help would be appreciated, thanks

JackJ · « **Reply #1 on:** April 14, 2008, 01:26:47 PM »

I flip a little but mostly because I am not that good at pitching.

I use my longest rod, and usually use the PJ's Lil jigs and drop them into the holes in the grass. We will get right up next to grass when we do so.

I also flip a brush hog or a craw type bait.

E_Bassfisher · « **Reply #2 on:** April 14, 2008, 01:45:26 PM »

i do the same, im just not confident enough in it to do it for any length of time.

JackJ · « **Reply #3 on:** April 14, 2008, 01:52:51 PM »

It worked pretty well for us at Mitchell year before last when we fished the night tournament.

We could see the fish moving the grass and would flip back to them.

JSB · « **Reply #4 on:** April 14, 2008, 02:09:50 PM »

I usually flip creature baits like brushhogs or yum baits. I'll flip or pitch just about any bank structure (grass, logs, stumps, lay downs). I always peg the weight with a toothpick. This keeps the weight from falling over a log or limb without the bait. As far as colors go, depends on the the water.

E_Bassfisher · « **Reply #5 on:** April 14, 2008, 02:20:23 PM »

Quote from: JSB on April 14, 2008, 02:09:50 PM

I usually flip creature baits like brushhogs or yum baits. I'll flip or pitch just about any bank structure (grass, logs, stumps, lay downs). I always peg the weight with a toothpick. This keeps the weight from falling over a log or limb without the bait. As far as colors go, depends on the the water.

how heavy are the weights typically?

JSB · « **Reply #6 on:** April 14, 2008, 03:01:12 PM »

Unless I am pitching or flipping thick grass I use the smallest weight I can get by with which is usually 1/8th oz. or a 3/16 oz.

E_Bassfisher · « **Reply #7 on:** April 14, 2008, 04:23:27 PM »

thanks guys...

BK · « **Reply #8 on:** April 14, 2008, 05:00:42 PM »

I'm with Shannon. The color depends on water clarity, clear water - I use watermelon, stained - I use green pumkin, muddy - I use black and blue, I like to keep it simple. When flipping/pitching I use the lightest weight possible and still get down through the cover. This makes the bait look more natural and will increase bites. Line size also depends on how heavy the cover is. You want to use the smallest diameter line you can get away with without breaking. Again with Shannon, I always peg my weight unless I'm fishing open water. As far as bait choice I'm usually using a Paca Craw or Sweet Beaver. I don't think that matters a whole lot either as long as you're where the fish are and you put it in their face. All of the creature baits will catch them. Most people don't have enough confidence in this technique because it's slow and the bites aren't as frequent because you can't cover alot of water fast. It takes alot of patience and I had to learn that because I aint got NONE!

Earlier during the week I found some fry holding in the hyacinth. Whenever I came across a hole in the mats I could see these fry right at the surface hanging out and the males would be directly underneath them. You put your bait through that hole and your bit immediately. I was catching mostly 1 to 2 pound males and would find a bigger female still hanging out occasionally. I was using a Paca Craw with a 4/0 Mustad Ultra Lock hook. I had it weighted with a pegged 1oz tungsten weight (to punch through the mats) on a 7'6" flippin stick with 80lb braid to horse them out with. I'd drop it through to the bottom, jig it a couple of times and move on. I think most of the Females have already spawned and moved out to a little deeper to recover that's why the bigger ones were hard to come by.

Now this is only my 2 cents worth and some may think I'm crazy but it works for me. I'd love to learn more too if anbody wants to share their different styles.

Brad

E_Bassfisher · « **Reply #9 on:** April 14, 2008, 07:54:49 PM »

thanks bk, that is a lot of help. i gotta get out and just spend a day working on that stuff. it is something i have wanted to do for a while. in fact, saturday, rhf and i had talked about giving it a shot as nothing else was working well for us; and it seemed like the right kind of day for it, but we just are not confident with the technique. i think these tips will really help. you guys got pretty specific and it is greatly appreciated/

one more question though: when you get the bite, is it a typical feel like a reaction strike that you have to keep much slack from the line? or, do the fish generally hold the bait well?

BK · « **Reply #10 on:** April 14, 2008, 08:22:26 PM »

The majority of the time when flipping/pitching and you feel the first initial "tick" it's time to set the hook and get him out of there. The longer you let him chew on it the more the chance he's gonna run with it and wrap you up or pull you to an offset angle where you hook set is not going to be as strong as it would be if you were in a straight line.

And again, it still depends on the fish. If you're missing alot of them or your bringing your bait back with it's panties pulled down then you should probably take the chance and let him eat a little longer. It's a chance you have to take because if you can't get a hook in them you definately can't get them in the boat.

Brad

Buzzbait · « **Reply #11 on:** April 14, 2008, 09:06:43 PM »

I do pretty much what they do E. I do feel like you CAN cover water flipping sometimes though, if you've got the pattern figured out. You can run down through that area on lo/med/hi? placing it in just those high percentage area holes. By doing that you leave your t-motor on(for the most part), and the fish are less spooked that way(I believe that anyway).You can make laps in your highest percentage area(s) on top of that!

Here, this may come in handy:

http://plants.ifas.ufl.edu/photocom.html

pondhopper · « **Reply #12 on:** April 15, 2008, 04:52:43 AM »

If I may be allowed;
Joe S. wrote a good article on jig fishing that will lend some idea as to what the bite feels like, even if your using plastic. Sometimes they slam it like a Mac truck and other times your bait is just heavy. Hooksets are free.

JackJ · « **Reply #13 on:** April 15, 2008, 07:53:52 AM »

Hooksets are free except when your using a $17.00 Japanese lure and it is really a stump

JSB · « **Reply #14 on:** April 15, 2008, 09:03:00 AM »

Buzz I have to disagree with you and agree with Brad. I don't feel like you can cover a lot of water fast and effectively fish an area when flipping or pitching. If you leave your t motor on I feel you are missing a lot of opportunities to catch fish (my opinion). Even if I have patterned fish holding on wood (stumps, logs or laydowns) I still fish between the patterned structure and catch fish. True, you will probably catch more on the structure that the fish are keying on but you never know what is under there that you can't see and I still catch fish. Remember this just my opinion.

JackJ · « **Reply #15 on:** April 15, 2008, 10:19:25 AM »

I have saw many folks work the holes fast like Buzz was saying, but I prefer to go slow because I am not coordinated enough

Buzzbait · « **Reply #16 on:** April 15, 2008, 05:36:27 PM »

N P S

Buzzbait · « **Reply #17 on:** April 16, 2008, 04:26:16 AM »

E, If you want to go to Lock 7 or 8 and practice flipping I usually have an empty seat. I can be at your house(since it's so close) by 2 something some saturday afternoon. Not sure about this coming one though, yet.

E_Bassfisher · « **Reply #18 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:31:42 AM »

thanks paul, i appreciate that

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