Topic: Norman DD22'S (Read 1259 times)

Joe · « **on:** January 20, 2009, 10:10:02 AM »

Ok I have a few of these, and seem to have issues with line size, I feel that the crank is so big I need to throw it on heavy line 15# + is that to much in open water? any one have issues going to a lighter line and getting good hooksets?

I know I'm losing a lot of depth going with the heavy line and want the benefit of getting down deep with lighter line, but I worry about setting the hook and snapping with say 8-10lb test.

JackJ · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:25:28 AM »

I wouldn't think the light line would be an issue since sharp treble hooks pretty much set themselves.

My main issue with lighter line would be due to it breaking off and loosing my crank when I get hung.

Someone explain to me why lighter line makes it dive deeper? I just cant seem to grasp that concept. Is it due to drag, or that you can normally make longer cast with lighter lines?

GMAN · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:35:45 AM »

I typically throw them on 10 flouro.

The musts! Make sure you have a good rod that is limber for this type of bait and a lighter drag or you will miss fish. You have to pay attention using 10lb with the hooks and knicks. In open water you will be fine with 10.

JackJ · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:40:42 AM »

This is from Roland Martin. Little surprising on the heavy rod....

Quote

"During the last few years, I've traded in the traditional casting tackle for heavy tackle for my crankbait fishing. I'll often throw a big deep-diving crankbait on my flipping stick with a high speed reel. The big 7 1/2-foot rod gives me several advantages over the type of rod used by most crankbait fishermen in this country.

First of all, I can make a longer cast with the long rod, which means I'll be able to get the lure to run deeper and, potentially, reach more fish. Secondly, it enables me to use heavy line. And, importantly, it gives me the ability to set the hook better after a long-distance cast."

GMAN · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:43:16 AM »

PS Joe, you do need a big rod to fish these baits. Very helpful. I plan on getting a Loomis 7'6" Crank rod for these types baits. Right now I am using a 7'PR844

Joe · « **Reply #5 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:59:09 AM »

I have a 7' medium heavy real slow tip, that works fine, just was concerned with the line size, for the size of that bait was worried about the 10 lb test.

E_Bassfisher · « **Reply #6 on:** January 20, 2009, 11:00:31 AM »

big 7' glass rod, super sharp trebles, 10-12lb test pure flourocarbon and you should be o.k. them big cranks are fish catching machines when fished properly...unfortuantly for me, i can't catch nothing on them

but, i have seen many a 3 to 5 #'er caught on deep divers

JackJ · « **Reply #7 on:** January 20, 2009, 11:06:11 AM »

It's hard for me to throw them. That's why I started carolina rigging the smaller crankbait's.

grimlin · « **Reply #8 on:** January 20, 2009, 11:11:09 AM »

I always thought the smaller the line is the less resistance it takes to dive.Which is why i use 8-10# test line.If i studied science the way i did back then that should be correct.

However I don't throw big baits.....I'd assume it'd be a bad thing as well.In that case i'd probably follow E_Bassfisher and use 10-12# fluorocarbon.

JackJ · « **Reply #9 on:** January 20, 2009, 11:34:50 AM »

The smaller line less resistance makes sense, but I would think smaller line would stretch more which might be a negative for deeper diving.

E_Bassfisher · « **Reply #10 on:** January 20, 2009, 12:14:49 PM »

RHF is using 10# seagar flouro on his, and i have never seen him break a fish off of that rig. and he def. gets 'em to the bottom.

GMAN · « **Reply #11 on:** January 20, 2009, 12:20:48 PM »

Quote from: E_Bassfisher on January 20, 2009, 12:14:49 PM

and he def. gets 'em to the bottom.

That right there is what I think is the key to fishing these baits on Main Lake Points.

E_Bassfisher · « **Reply #12 on:** January 20, 2009, 12:50:59 PM »

Quote from: GMAN on January 20, 2009, 12:20:48 PM

That right there is what I think is the key to fishing these baits on Main Lake Points.

i seen 2 scaring 6# last year doing that.... wish i could catch some 6 #'ers

grimlin · « **Reply #13 on:** January 20, 2009, 03:05:49 PM »

Quote from: JackJ on January 20, 2009, 11:34:50 AM

The smaller line less resistance makes sense, but I would think smaller line would stretch more which might be a negative for deeper diving.

Explains why some people may prefer braid line for deep divers.

Joe · « **Reply #14 on:** January 20, 2009, 03:53:01 PM »

I have to give them a good shot this season to cover a giant 200 yard ledge, I have select spots with rock piles I throw the jig on that ledge, but would like to cover the water in between a little more instead of just driving over it all.

the top edge of the ledge averages 12-15ft. so if I can get that down there that would be good. it dorps off into 20-23ft.

GMAN · « **Reply #15 on:** January 20, 2009, 04:02:46 PM »

sounds like a prime spot Joe. I would drag that dd22 through there then go back and jig it.

JackJ · « **Reply #16 on:** January 20, 2009, 04:03:33 PM »

If its a ledge carolina rig some Bandit 200's on about a 4-6 foot leader. The smaller bandits may match your hatch size a little better.

Plus you know you can get a C-rig down there easily and will work great on the drop off as it will look like a shad running over the ledge to the deeper water.

Joe · « **Reply #17 on:** January 20, 2009, 04:20:07 PM »

It is a good spot, I have found the ultimate sweet spot on it. the very end of it and it comes up to 10 feet, basically it's a giant flat 10-15ft deep from the shore to about 100 yards from the bank and probably 200+ yards long, and there is a ledge off that whole flat that drops to 20+ft. With high spots here and there and rock piles, and somehow a tree or two, or three made it out there

In our top ten classic that tip at the end put the 4.7 and 4+ in the boat in 10 cast on the jig. I think I have probably over 20 spots on the whole flat marked on my gps, some I have caught some nice ones off of, some I haven't caught anything yet, but I always have to try them all because that one time, could be 6 lb smallie time

Joe · « **Reply #18 on:** January 21, 2009, 11:50:54 AM »

Anyone know any good sites that sell them through paypal?

GMAN · « **Reply #19 on:** January 21, 2009, 11:53:39 AM »

Now that is a good question Joe.

JackJ · « **Reply #20 on:** January 21, 2009, 11:58:26 AM »

Yea eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-DEEP-DIVING-NORMAN-DD22-MANNS-20+-USED-FREE-SHIPPING_W0QQitemZ380097624801QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090117?IMSfp=TL090117111005r1165

JackJ · « **Reply #21 on:** January 21, 2009, 12:04:11 PM »

http://www.southerntackle.com/products.asp?cat=555

http://www.wetlandoutfitters.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/7/products_id/33

Joe · « **Reply #22 on:** January 21, 2009, 12:12:35 PM »

Thanks Jack!

Joe · « **Reply #23 on:** January 21, 2009, 12:20:57 PM »

only problem is limited color availability

JackJ · « **Reply #24 on:** January 21, 2009, 12:24:22 PM »

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